Die Ghul Show with 7MARKUS7!

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:icongawrilaghul:: Welcome to my humble show, :icon7markus7:!
Do you enjoy being here? :)

:icon7markus7:: :) it's good to be here , honor to be invited .


:icongawrilaghul:: How would you introduce yourself to our humble audience? :)

:icon7markus7:: I'm (  :icon7markus7:  ) embodiment of enlightenment ,
beardet guy behind the computer is just a vessel .
He claims to be somekind of artist .


:icongawrilaghul:: How does he do that? :)

:icon7markus7:: How does he claim to be an artist ?
paints pictures , posts them to internet , studiet arts in nineties .
no exhibitions and ridiculously little sales , he's a fake if you ask me :smoking:

How he's a vessel to enlightenment ?

That is entirely My doing :plotting:  that weak willed dimwit couldn't find his way
out of bathroom without Me .

:icongawrilaghul:: So, who am I talking to RIGHT NOW? :)

:icon7markus7:: :)  Now you are talking to me Winter self by 7markus7

That light ball is supposed to be a toll , but sometimes he takes a life of it's
own ;)  ... 
and mean one , i found out of bathroom , see  ?


:icongawrilaghul:: Great! :clap:

So what are you up to, next? :)

:icon7markus7:: :) besides from posting my work to internet trying to scrape money for gallery rents to have an exhibition .. i'm also looking for oppurtunities to get works exhibited for free , those oppurtunities are mostly avaidable in summer .

 
I'm also painting more all the time . 

:icongawrilaghul:: Ah yes, your paintings!

Light bringer by 7markus7   O.t.e by 7markus7   Neon by 7markus7   Dementia by 7markus7

Are they, basically, self-portraits?

If so, to what extent?

:icon7markus7:: Ha ha , :D old proverb goes that every picture is a selfportrait , some of them more , others less ;)
Most of my pictures are abstractions of ideas , presented in visual language and often i know what the idea is only afterwards , when the work is ready , since i'm not a person but idea lacking the knowledge of it's meaning there's also connection to every work ... from the quartet you presented , the abstract work O.T.E . is closest to self portrait , it's painted on my pants .

:icongawrilaghul:: Well, I'm glad you didn't say, "it's painted WITH my pants!" :phew::thumbsup:

Anyway... Why did you do that? :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: i simply run out of canvas and liked to try some new material :innocent: 

then cut my old working jeans to pieces and painted on them :nod:


:icongawrilaghul:: I understand, but why does just THIS make that one come closest to being a SELF-PORTRAIT...? :paranoid:

:icon7markus7:: It's a piece that's been closest to myself :thumbsup:


:icongawrilaghul:: Well alright, let's not focus too much on that! :thumbsup:

About "getting exhibited for free" now! :thumbsup:

I'll call out no names here of course, but I do remember one very experienced deviant and painter (--> :iconscheinbar::salute:) giving away all of her stuff for free, because actually "the market for paintings is overstocked."

So, what's your opinion about the market for EXHIBITION ROOM? :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: Exhibition room is always and everywhere too expensive :shakefist:

it's conspiracy towards artists :thumbsdown:


:icongawrilaghul:: Do you think there is or ever was actually anything, NOT meant to be a "conspiracy against artists?" :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: :whisper: There's few cases that are conspiracies of the artists :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_…    :shh:

:icongawrilaghul:: Is there any special reason you are mentioning that right now...? :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: Except mentioning that as an example of conspiracy of an artist ...?

there's been some talk if art should have a meaning , that's not necessary ,it's enough that it looks like having a meaning .

not right now of course .. no reason


:icongawrilaghul:: How do you make something "look as if it had a meaning?" :)

:icon7markus7:: :) when audience is D.A. that's easy , post anything , and soon someone comes and sees things in it ..


:icongawrilaghul:: Could it be that you do not have the best opinion, about the noble dA audience? :)

:icon7markus7:: :) i mean that they're artists themselves and have good imagination ,

non artist audience outside D.a. may be problem - D.a. audience is best possible ,

they make half of the artists work for you :D


:icongawrilaghul:: Ah, I see!
So, what about the audience OUTSIDE dA? :)
:icon7markus7:: non artist audience outside D.a. don't much understand or appreciate abstract work that's majority of my pictures .

common people have liked my pictures of women , and it's been women who have liked of them , they say my pictures aren't pornographics , but gentle and respectful ... i dunno , i have sold a few of them :shrug: 


:icongawrilaghul:: Here's just a quick excursus on WOMEN: So, do I have to imagine this like them approaching you, saying things like "hey, :icon7markus7:, this is absolutely not pornographic! I like it!" while, at the same time still, managing to somehow also remain RESPECTFUL...? :shifty:

If so, what is this supposed to tell us, about what, at all...? :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: Real story behind quote goes like this - I was selling some stuff in my hometowns market square and had little portfolio of my work with me , this woman looked them and said "your pictures of women are nice , they aren't smutty" and bought something ... and i got similar feedback from other people too .

That's not my opinion of course , it was theirs  =P

For me those pictures are abstractions , much like anything else :innocent:

This doesn't tell much anything about nothing , but since you asked about audience outside D.a. here is their reactions :|


:icongawrilaghul:: Alright, I see!

So, I still am quite confident that with this very question, I just came one step closer to THE TRUTH! :hooray::thumbsup:

So, after all, just how important do you think is BUYING? :)

Also, does this actually mean that YOU, personally, actually WOULD consider them to be somewhat smutty pornographic…? :paranoid:

If so, why? :paranoid:

:icon7markus7:: if i had all money in the world i wouldn't care too much for selling ,

and now i sell so little that i don't care about that too much either .

Truthful opinion about pictures of women comes again from D.a. audience .

Someone said they are very emotional , and that's true , they are also very
abstract and not too much anatomically detailed , so they can be smutty , but not pornographic . :thumbsup:

:icongawrilaghul:: Well I do agree with "emotional", yet still I find that "smutty, but not pornographic" comment rather odd… :paranoid:

Anyway, let's talk a bit about your own perception of your women!

Woman holding a swan by 7markus7   Laundry girl by 7markus7   Woman in the bus by 7markus7   Most beautiful woman in town by 7markus7

Especially about Laundry Girl, since she appears more than once in your gallery!

Who/what is she?

:icon7markus7:: sometimes i talk odd , but do you think most beautiful woman in town does qualify as "smutty , but not pornographic " ... it's completely abstract , but looks dirty in a way .

there's not any deep thought in laundry girls , i used to work in bathroom at the time when i made those , i quess that's why i titled them laundry girl , i worked in same space where laundry was done .


:icongawrilaghul:: Well I guess my point was that I don't really understand how anything completely abstract COULD possibly be pornographic... :shrug:

Anyway, Most beautiful woman in town by 7markus7 surely is a fascinating piece!

So, since you also do not agree with the interpretation :iconparker-weston: did make on that, what HAS been your approach towards it?

Is it an abstraction of how your ideal woman would look like? :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: :no: not an abstraction how ideal woman should look like ,

there's also little piece of text in description , that imitates the style of limericks ,

limericks are usually naughty little pieces of poetry ... connecting style of the text and stain like image it all makes reference to dirty sex act .


:icongawrilaghul:: Now, does it make me plain stupid or just unsufficiently capable of limericks, if I don't get it...? :hmm:

:icon7markus7:: i'm not capable of limericks or too smart either , but still i wrote it ,

i agree that language is highly symbolics and in that way it's very different of usual limericks , yet the text does have kind of limerick mood anyway .

it may be that the work does not open to everyone same way , but that's not necessary , actually that's one of the fun parts of abstract and symbolic stuff , everybody can see it their own way .


:icongawrilaghul:: What IS art, actually? :)

:icon7markus7:: anything that's good and original in some way :D


:icongawrilaghul:: Ok, so what is GOOD? :)

:icon7markus7:: what's good is subjective , but what's original ain't subjective .

that's why definition of art needs to meet both criterias .


:icongawrilaghul:: So, art has to speak to YOU personally, while still being somewhat STRIKING…? :shifty:

:icon7markus7:: yeah , art has to speak to YOU  personally , but it can be also subtle , as opposed to striking , often it's just the subtle stuff that makes the originality in art , small variarions on what's been done before .


:icongawrilaghul:: Well but if something is SUBTLE enough in just the right way to be recognized by YOU PERSONALLY, it is also still STRIKING!

Wouldn't you agree? :)

:icon7markus7:: :lol: agreed !


:icongawrilaghul:: AGREEING on something is always a good point to CLOSE THE SHOW! :hooray:

So, do you have any last words left for our noble audience? :)

:icon7markus7:: :bow: everybody -------- ja terveisiä äidille ! :wave:


:icongawrilaghul:: Ladies and gentlemen, :clap::icon7markus7:!

Elaborating on women, pornography, and women! :hooray:

Also, a bit on art! :hooray:

And also, a bit on women! :hooray:



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I agree with Parker! Wonderful interview!!